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Date: 6 Dec
2001
Afghanistan: Interview with Pir
Gailani, head of the 'Peshawar Group'
ISLAMABAD, 6 December (IRIN) -
This week saw an agreement in Bonn
that marks a significant step forward
in Afghanistan's political
reconstruction. Pir Syed Ahmed Gailani
is leader of the Assembly for Peace
and National Unity of Afghanistan (APNUA),
more commonly known as the 'Peshawar
Group' - one of three exile groups
represented at the Bonn talks.
Gailani told IRIN in an interview
on Thursday that despite some bias
towards one Afghan faction, the Bonn
agreement was a positive step. But he
added that the forthcoming Loya Jirga
[grand tribal assembly] would help
ensure a far broader representation of
Afghan views.
QUESTION: What is your
perspective on the Bonn conference?
ANSWER: The Bonn agreement
is a good step forward if it allows
peace to return to Afghanistan and a
good government is formed, which is
acceptable to, and will bring benefits
for Afghans. However, this is not an
easy task. Regrettably, there was not
sufficient equity in the Bonn
conference. People were treated
differently. We don't oppose it, but
we have our concerns. Though it tilted
towards one faction [the Northern
Alliance], it's better than nothing.
Hopefully, it will result in something
better than the Taliban. We are
specifically looking forward to the
coming six months when the Loya Jirga
[grand tribal assembly] will be held.
That should be more representative
than Bonn. It should ensure the
participation of people's real
representatives and should not be
dominated by one faction.
Q: How satisfied are you
with the power sharing formula?
A: As I said, Bonn was not
equitable. Most of the portfolios have
remained with the Rabbani government's
representatives, who stayed in power.
But after the Loya Jirga, we hope that
a better government will be formed
that better reflects the people's
will.
Q: What is your view of the
new interim head of the transitional
authority, Hamid Karzai?
A: He is a good person from
a very good family. But one man cannot
run the whole government, it needs
team work. Now [progress] depends on
his cabinet and how much support they
give him. It also depends on his
ability to keep them together and
utilise their collective abilities.
Q: What will be the role of
the former King, Muhammad Zahir Shah?
A: Whatever the people of
Afghanistan decide will be acceptable
to us. Obviously, the times of
monarchies are gone and monarchy
cannot be restored. However, if the
majority of Afghans demand a role for
him as a [unifying] symbol, then I
will back that role.
Q: Are the Taliban going to
have any role in the future Afghan
set-up?
A: Anything in the name of
the Taliban is now over. Those who
consider themselves as Taliban are
still fighting. If any former Taliban
repents his past and joins the people
of Afghanistan for peace then
obviously he will become part of the
masses.
Q: How do you view the
setting up of a war crimes tribunal in
Afghanistan?
A: The people and the
government should decide such matters.
I am afraid that if we start it
immediately, then many people [war
criminals] will be held accountable.
Q: What, in your view, are
the immediate priorities for
Afghanistan?
A: Peace is the first and
foremost priority. Education, the
second. [Many] people are hungry, they
are homeless and don't have access to
health care. All this needs to be
taken care of. Everything is needed at
this stage and in some ways it's very
difficult to prioritise.
On the political front we need and
demand a democratic system so that
people are given their rights. Nobody
can arbitrarily rule people by force.
I demand a fully representative Loya
Jirga, proper consultation and
properly elected parliament so that
legitimate people will rule
Afghanistan.
Q: What role do you see for
Ulema [Muslim religious scholars] and
other clergy in Afghanistan?
A: I respect Ulema as we are
Muslims and respect clergy as is done
elsewhere in the world. They are part
of the Afghan nation. I demand respect
for religion.
Q: What should be the
priorities in terms of reconstruction?
A: More than two decades of
war has ravaged Afghanistan to the
extent that people are homeless,
hungry, they have no employment,
health care or access to proper
education. So all these things are to
be taken care of in terms of
reconstruction.
Q: Is there going to be a
prominent role for women in the future
set up?
A: God has given women a
proper role and Islam has given women
the right to equally participate in
all spheres of life alongside men. In
the prophet Muhammad's time, women
participated in all spheres of life
including politics. Obviously women
will be better off in a new
Afghanistan.
Q: As an Afghan political
leader, what message do you have for
the international community?
A: They should try to
restore peace. They should ensure that
the political process started in Bonn
moves smoothly. They should work for a
Loya Jirga and an elected
representative Afghan government,
which can meet the people's
inspirations. They should help in
rebuilding Afghanistan so that it
again becomes a responsible member of
the United Nations.
[ENDS]
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